by Anonymous / Unidentified Author
Translation © by David Wyatt

Juvenis qui puellam
Language: Latin 
Available translation(s): ENG
Juvenis qui puellam nondum septennem duxit
Quamvis aetas repugnaret
Ex humana tamen fragilitate forsan temptavit
Quod compere non potuit

Quia igitur in his quae dubia sunt
Quod tutius est tener debemus
Tum propter
Honestatem ecclesiae.

Quia ipsa conjux ipsius fuisse dicitur
Tum propter
Dictam dubitationem:
Mandamus quatinus consobrinam ipsius puellae
Quam postea duxit, dividas ab eodem.

Primum argumentum
Contra vos arguitur
Ubi per vos innuitur
Affectum velle puniri et effectum non sortiri

Quod clare probaretur
Sed brevitas non patitur

Solutio primi argumenti
Ad hoc sic dico breviter non recitando fontem
Quae contra me dixistis
Quod publicae honestatis justitia
Non patitur id quod per vos innuitur.

Secundum argumentum
Quamvis bene dixeritis, tamen contra vos arguo.
Nam in fine vos dicitis quod dividatur ab eo et
Contrarium videtis in capitulo unico quod
Alias allegastis sexto eodem titulo.

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  • ENG English (David Wyatt) , title 1: "A young man loved a lass", copyright © 2012, (re)printed on this website with kind permission


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This text was added to the website: 2012-05-22
Line count: 29
Word count: 135

A young man loved a lass
Language: English  after the Latin 
A young man loved a lass, not yet seven years old,
Although her age should have rejected it
However from human frailty perhaps he attempted
What he could not complete.

Because therefore in these matters there are things which are doubtful,
We must keep to what is safer
For the sake of
The church's reputation.

Because she is said to have become his wife
For the sake of
The said uncertainty
We order, seeing that afterwards he loved the cousin of this girl ,
You should separate her from him.

The first argument
It is argued against you that
Since through you it was approved 
That we should wish the plaintiff to be punished 
and that the defendant should not be allotted punishment,
Which could clearly be proved,
Though brevity will not allow it.

Solution for the first argument
In response I say this briefly by not reciting the source
Of what you have said against me
That the justice of an honest public 
Does not accept that which is approved by you.

Second argument
Although you have spoken well, still I argue against you.
For in fine you are saying that she should be separated from him and
You will see the opposite in this unique case, because
You are despatching other ladies on your business with him over the sixth titular church1.

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Translator's note: set out as a mock trial, it is likely the 'young man' is Pope Eugenius IV, the seven year old is the Council of Basle -- 7 years old in 1437 - and the second affair with her cousin represents the Pope's attempt to deal with his problems in Basle by creating a new Council at Ferrara in that year.
1 Translator's note: I have assumed this is a reference to one of the 'titular' churches in Rome, though it could be a 'sub-head' in a legal case

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This text was added to the website: 2012-05-22
Line count: 30
Word count: 224